{"id":347,"date":"2020-03-27T17:57:45","date_gmt":"2020-03-27T17:57:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/?p=347"},"modified":"2020-03-27T17:57:53","modified_gmt":"2020-03-27T17:57:53","slug":"relaxation-and-all-that-exercise-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/?p=347","title":{"rendered":"Relaxation and all that (Exercise 4)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Three states \u2013 now that is exciting!  And I\u2019m not kidding.  You are poised to understand critical timescales in non-equilibrium statistical mechanics.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>We have been studying the <em>linear <\/em>three-state system.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"556\" height=\"147\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/c-users-zuckermd-box-physicallens-htmlphysicallen-23.png\" class=\"wp-image-388\" alt=\"C:\\Users\\zuckermd\\Box\\physicalLens\\htmlPhysicalLens\\images\\discreteThreeStateLinear.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/c-users-zuckermd-box-physicallens-htmlphysicallen-23.png 556w, https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/c-users-zuckermd-box-physicallens-htmlphysicallen-23-300x79.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 556px) 100vw, 556px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s quickly go over the answers from last time.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n  Write down the ODEs for this system.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n    These are a straightforward generalization of the two-state case: <\/p>\n<p class=\"ql-center-displayed-equation\" style=\"line-height: 123px;\"><span class=\"ql-right-eqno\"> (1) <\/span><span class=\"ql-left-eqno\"> &nbsp; <\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-5807f9049b75560e687bb09972a1a4f8_l3.png\" height=\"123\" width=\"298\" class=\"ql-img-displayed-equation quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#92;&#98;&#101;&#103;&#105;&#110;&#123;&#97;&#108;&#105;&#103;&#110;&#42;&#125;&#32;&#92;&#102;&#114;&#97;&#99;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#49;&#32;&#125;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#116;&#32;&#125;&#32;&#38;&#61;&#32;&#45;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#49;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;&#32;&#43;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#50;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#49;&#125;&#32;&#92;&#92;&#32;&#92;&#102;&#114;&#97;&#99;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#50;&#32;&#125;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#116;&#32;&#125;&#32;&#38;&#61;&#32;&#45;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#50;&#32;&#40;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#49;&#125;&#43;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#51;&#125;&#41;&#32;&#43;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#49;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;&#32;&#43;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#51;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#51;&#50;&#125;&#32;&#92;&#92;&#32;&#92;&#102;&#114;&#97;&#99;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#51;&#32;&#125;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#116;&#32;&#125;&#32;&#38;&#61;&#32;&#45;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#51;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#51;&#50;&#125;&#32;&#43;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#50;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#51;&#125;&#32;&#92;&#101;&#110;&#100;&#123;&#97;&#108;&#105;&#103;&#110;&#42;&#125;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\"\/><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n  Solve for the equilibrium populations of this system.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n    These can be determined \u201cby inspection\u201d as people more experienced than you always said in a most annoying way.  Well, you could solve the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.physicallensonthecell.org\/chemical-physics\/equilibrium-means-detailed-balance\">detailed balance<\/a> equations (<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-caeb4f343b1bf8e0327cefd554a766e9_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#80;&#95;&#105;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#105;&#106;&#125;&#32;&#61;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#106;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#105;&#106;&#125;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"19\" width=\"100\" style=\"vertical-align: -6px;\"\/>) along with the probability normalization condition (<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-41c7862311bcdfc16df22bcf2c9c4915_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#92;&#115;&#117;&#109;&#95;&#105;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#105;&#32;&#61;&#32;&#49;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"18\" width=\"76\" style=\"vertical-align: -5px;\"\/>).  Or for, say <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-93c760c2d07f9898160c037b784b5f78_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#80;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"16\" width=\"25\" style=\"vertical-align: -4px;\"\/>, you could ask: what fraction can be multiplied by the outgoing rate <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-cf614e18c4ea748499c7379d61243561_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"17\" width=\"23\" style=\"vertical-align: -4px;\"\/> so that it has to balance the incoming probability flow from state 2?  That\u2019s the \u201cby inspection\u201d strategy.  Stare at these for a while and you\u2019ll see they have to be correct.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"ql-center-displayed-equation\" style=\"line-height: 37px;\"><span class=\"ql-right-eqno\"> &nbsp; <\/span><span class=\"ql-left-eqno\"> &nbsp; <\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-51b7bb883c4bf35ad034afa177999804_l3.png\" height=\"37\" width=\"399\" class=\"ql-img-displayed-equation quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#92;&#91;&#80;&#94;&#123;&#101;&#113;&#125;&#95;&#49;&#32;&#61;&#32;&#92;&#102;&#114;&#97;&#99;&#123;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#49;&#125;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#51;&#50;&#125;&#125;&#123;&#92;&#83;&#105;&#103;&#109;&#97;&#125;&#32;&#32;&#92;&#104;&#115;&#112;&#97;&#99;&#101;&#123;&#49;&#99;&#109;&#125;&#32;&#80;&#94;&#123;&#101;&#113;&#125;&#95;&#50;&#32;&#61;&#32;&#92;&#102;&#114;&#97;&#99;&#123;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#51;&#50;&#125;&#125;&#123;&#92;&#83;&#105;&#103;&#109;&#97;&#125;&#32;&#92;&#104;&#115;&#112;&#97;&#99;&#101;&#123;&#49;&#99;&#109;&#125;&#32;&#80;&#94;&#123;&#101;&#113;&#125;&#95;&#51;&#32;&#61;&#32;&#92;&#102;&#114;&#97;&#99;&#123;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#51;&#125;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;&#125;&#123;&#92;&#83;&#105;&#103;&#109;&#97;&#125;&#92;&#93;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\"\/><\/p>\n<p> Here, <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-14fb1e14301ad034b94e3db3ff52c0c9_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#92;&#83;&#105;&#103;&#109;&#97;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"12\" width=\"12\" style=\"vertical-align: 0px;\"\/> is the sum of the numerators to ensure normalization.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n  Sketch and write down the ODEs for a <em>non-equilibrium<\/em> steady state in which transition events from state 2 to 3 immediately generate feedback to state 1.  That is, no transitions from 3 to 2 are allowed (so 3 can be called an absorbing state) and transitions from 2 to 3 effectively become transitions from 2 to 1 (though governed by the 2-to-3 rate constant).<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n    Here\u2019s a sketch.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"574\" height=\"260\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/c-users-zuckermd-box-physicallens-htmlphysicallen-24.png\" class=\"wp-image-389\" alt=\"C:\\Users\\zuckermd\\Box\\physicalLens\\htmlPhysicalLens\\images\\discreteThreeStateFeedback.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/c-users-zuckermd-box-physicallens-htmlphysicallen-24.png 574w, https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/c-users-zuckermd-box-physicallens-htmlphysicallen-24-300x136.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 574px) 100vw, 574px\" \/><br \/>\nAnd here are the ODEs:<\/p>\n<p class=\"ql-center-displayed-equation\" style=\"line-height: 81px;\"><span class=\"ql-right-eqno\"> (2) <\/span><span class=\"ql-left-eqno\"> &nbsp; <\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-403dcedfd9b8fb8b1361e8bce05e3049_l3.png\" height=\"81\" width=\"233\" class=\"ql-img-displayed-equation quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#92;&#98;&#101;&#103;&#105;&#110;&#123;&#97;&#108;&#105;&#103;&#110;&#42;&#125;&#92;&#102;&#114;&#97;&#99;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#49;&#32;&#125;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#116;&#32;&#125;&#32;&#38;&#61;&#32;&#45;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#49;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;&#32;&#43;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#50;&#32;&#40;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#49;&#125;&#32;&#43;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#51;&#125;&#41;&#32;&#92;&#92;&#92;&#102;&#114;&#97;&#99;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#50;&#32;&#125;&#123;&#32;&#100;&#116;&#32;&#125;&#32;&#38;&#61;&#32;&#45;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#50;&#32;&#40;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#49;&#125;&#32;&#43;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#51;&#125;&#41;&#32;&#43;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#49;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;&#32;&#92;&#101;&#110;&#100;&#123;&#97;&#108;&#105;&#103;&#110;&#42;&#125;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\"\/><\/p>\n<p>As intended, the flow from state 2 to 3 has been diverted (or \u2018recycled\u2019 or \u2018fed back\u2019) to state 1.  State 3 is an absorber which directly feeds state 1.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Did you see what we did?  The set of equations (2) have just two states, because <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-7b0c0457d34fa7752aa03e1415224a6e_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#80;&#95;&#51;&#61;&#48;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"15\" width=\"52\" style=\"vertical-align: -3px;\"\/> for all times by our assumption that probability that reaches state 3 <em>immediately<\/em> gets fed to state 1.<\/p>\n<p>Now you can do some more simple math and learn a lot, really a lot.  I\u2019m not kidding \u2013 this is going to be HUGE!  Here are the new questions, with more to come next time to complete your understanding.  We are still roughly following along with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.physicallensonthecell.org\/discrete-state-kinetics-and-markov-models\">material from my website<\/a>, so please cheat!  But remember to force yourself to do the exercises from scratch the next day.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n  Write down the exact solution to the set of ODEs (2).  No math is required at all.  Instead, use the solutions you already know for the two-state system, and just substitute in the rates.<\/li>\n<li>\n  What is the new relaxation time (time constant of the exponential)?  Does the (algebraic) dependence of this timescale on the various rate constants make sense?<\/li>\n<li>\n  As <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-eaf6e1b9b313312547d02f959b8648de_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#116;&#32;&#92;&#116;&#111;&#32;&#92;&#105;&#110;&#102;&#116;&#121;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"13\" width=\"51\" style=\"vertical-align: -1px;\"\/>, the system does not relax to equilibrium.  Find the <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-eaf6e1b9b313312547d02f959b8648de_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#116;&#32;&#92;&#116;&#111;&#32;&#92;&#105;&#110;&#102;&#116;&#121;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"13\" width=\"51\" style=\"vertical-align: -1px;\"\/> state probabilities and show that detailed balance does <em>not <\/em>hold \u2013 at least in the usual sense.  That is, show that <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/statisticalbiophysicsblog.org\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-c5c5d194afc5a39e750ebb24dc3ee7c6_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#80;&#95;&#49;&#40;&#116;&#92;&#33;&#92;&#116;&#111;&#92;&#33;&#92;&#105;&#110;&#102;&#116;&#121;&#41;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#49;&#50;&#125;&#32;&#92;&#110;&#101;&#113;&#32;&#32;&#80;&#95;&#50;&#40;&#116;&#92;&#33;&#92;&#116;&#111;&#92;&#33;&#92;&#105;&#110;&#102;&#116;&#121;&#41;&#32;&#107;&#95;&#123;&#50;&#49;&#125;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"18\" width=\"227\" style=\"vertical-align: -4px;\"\/>.<\/li>\n<li>\n  Instead the system relaxes to a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.physicallensonthecell.org\/chemical-physics\/non-equilibrium-steady-states\">non-equilibrium steady state<\/a>.  Describe in words the basic property of any steady state and show that the steady probabilities satisfy this property for both states.<\/li>\n<li>\n  Remind yourself that equilibrium is a special steady state.  Explain why detailed balance implies steady state, but note that our system shows the reverse is not true in general.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Three states \u2013 now that is exciting! And I\u2019m not kidding. 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